if you pick education primarily kindergarten through 12 education, right? he also cut higher ed. >> is that right? massachusetts is one of the states that massachusetts is on the lower end nationally. >> bill: he bragged about as governor that he knows how to create jobs, not just at bain capital, but massachusetts. >> caller: our unemployment rate or our employment rate, i think we were 48 or 47th out of 50 during his time as governor. i don't think he showed any particular talent for creating jobs as a public sector person. you know, let's be honest, being a private businessman at bain capital, you certainly get experience, but it's not always transferable experience to working in government, and the things that work to create or quite frankly destroy jobs at bain capital not the same skills you need presiding as a chief elected official. >> bill: he made a big point in the debate about i was mr. easy to get along with, i reached across the aisle, met with democrats all the time, we worked together and got things done. was he known as such a friendly repu